and michelle obama i think has had a harder time burying the hatchet than president obama has. this was a very tough race in 2008. but what is interesting is that they seem to have some chemistry in that interview. it wasn't a kind of formal stiff -- >> it was pretty smooth, pretty natural. >> they had a connection with each other that was important for the country to see. >> all right, jonathan alter, great to have you with us. thank you so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. and rachel maddow of "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening, and thank you. >> you bet. >> thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. the 50th state in the united states is of course hawaii. 49th state admitted the year before, alaska. so those were 49 and 50. those are the last two states admitted to the union in 1958 and 1959. what was the last state admitted before then? before alaska and hawaii, the last state admitted in the contiguous united states, the last state admitted on the big part of the map? that was arizona. arizona was the 48th state. it was not admit